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rover 216 gti twin cam honda engine 5 door

#1 Post by StubbornPatriot » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:34 pm

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#2 Post by 1234dist » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:06 am

can we take him to practical classics and show him how to clean the car :slapme

I've never understood the reason for the all doors open picture. :mouthshut
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#3 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:23 pm

He's flogged the centre caps, there is no headlining [windscreen leak?], no drivers door lock/central locking and 86k isn't low miles in my book.

He at least tells you what's wrong with it to be fair though; I wouldn't buy another without inspecting the subframe first.
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Re: rover 216 gti twin cam honda engine 5 door

#4 Post by Julesmat50 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:01 am

Mr Teddy Bear wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:23 pm
86k isn't low miles in my book
I have to ask, as this piqued my curiosity. What would you consider "low mileage" on a 28yr old car? It's done an average of 3,000 miles P.A, when 10-12k P.A. is usually considered "average" mileage. You would certainly not say a 3 year old car with 9,000 miles on it, was anything other than low mileage, so why is a 28yr old car with the same average miles, not?
I've heard this before and it never makes sense to me, so I must be overlooking something - a 10yr old car with 80-120,000 miles, would be called average, but a 28yr old car with 86,000 isn't "low"? It's done 1/3 of the miles an "average mileage" car could have travelled in the same time frame.
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#5 Post by montegoman » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:33 am

There is a difference between low average mileage, (total mileage divided by age) and low mileage which means, well, low mileage! Very few cars will do 10-12k miles per year consistently past say 10 or 12 years as they tend to change ownership and different owners use cars to a differing extent. Older cars will generally do less annual miles than newer cars. Most high mileage cars have racked up the miles in the first few years. There are of course always exceptions.
I wouldn't consider any car with 80k + miles as low mileage however old it is.
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#6 Post by richard moss » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:04 am

montegoman wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:33 am
There is a difference between low average mileage, (total mileage divided by age) and low mileage which means, well, low mileage! Very few cars will do 10-12k miles per year consistently past say 10 or 12 years as they tend to change ownership and different owners use cars to a differing extent. Older cars will generally do less annual miles than newer cars. Most high mileage cars have racked up the miles in the first few years. There are of course always exceptions.
I wouldn't consider any car with 80k + miles as low mileage however old it is.
By your reckoning, though, if 10k/year for 10 years is "average", any pre-2000 car with less than 100,000 miles on the clock has to be regarded as "low mileage".

Your own policy makes this one low mileage :)
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Re: rover 216 gti twin cam honda engine 5 door

#7 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:47 am

Julesmat50 wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:01 am
Mr Teddy Bear wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:23 pm
86k isn't low miles in my book
I have to ask, as this piqued my curiosity. What would you consider "low mileage" on a 28yr old car? It's done an average of 3,000 miles P.A, when 10-12k P.A. is usually considered "average" mileage. You would certainly not say a 3 year old car with 9,000 miles on it, was anything other than low mileage, so why is a 28yr old car with the same average miles, not?
I've heard this before and it never makes sense to me, so I must be overlooking something - a 10yr old car with 80-120,000 miles, would be called average, but a 28yr old car with 86,000 isn't "low"? It's done 1/3 of the miles an "average mileage" car could have travelled in the same time frame.
The seller is trying to suggest that the mileage either attracts a premium or at least justifies the price being asked.
It's a condition 2/3 car with an average number of miles on the clock imo. He's willing to MOT it for another year so that means he's had a look underneath! :)

To answer the question 'what's a low mileage'? I would say anything up to 40,000 miles is low, 40 -80,000 is reasonable and doesn't effect value, 80,000 and above may negatively impact value, but it all depends on condition and state of preservation.

Down here in Bristol welded subframes will fail so I'm being told so that is something to keep in mind! :oops

I'm not trying to suggest that this isn't a genuine car, but now that prices have edged up slightly, there are some 'chancers' emerging....
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Re: rover 216 gti twin cam honda engine 5 door

#8 Post by Julesmat50 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:53 am

montegoman wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:33 am
There is a difference between low average mileage, (total mileage divided by age) and low mileage which means, well, low mileage! Very few cars will do 10-12k miles per year consistently past say 10 or 12 years as they tend to change ownership and different owners use cars to a differing extent. Older cars will generally do less annual miles than newer cars. Most high mileage cars have racked up the miles in the first few years. There are of course always exceptions.
I wouldn't consider any car with 80k + miles as low mileage however old it is.
That's a very good point although I have to wonder how much of this "bias?" (for want of a better term) is down to those of us over a certain age, who can remember when cars that had mileages of 100k plus were generally regarded as completely "clapped out" (and were in the most part! :laughing2 ). Today's cars are easily capable of clocking up 100k and being barely "run-in". I guess it's down to whether you think our Rovers belong under the "old" definition or the "new" :D
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Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:47 am
To answer the question 'what's a low mileage'? I would say anything up to 40,000 miles is low, 40 -80,000 is reasonable and doesn't effect value, 80,000 and above may negatively impact value, but it all depends on condition and state of preservation.
That's fair enough. My first Rover R8 was only 3 years old, but had 60k on the clock, so was definitely a high mileage car. When it was written off some 6 yrs later, it had 215k on the clock, but to look at it, it was very close to the same as it had been at 60k, because it had been maintained. As far as I could tell (being biased of course :D ) it drove just as well with 215k on, as it had with 60k, so in no way could it be said to be "clapped out", yet as you rightly say having a mileage that high would have been seen as a negative had I tried to sell it.
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Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:47 am
I'm not trying to suggest that this isn't a genuine car, but now that prices have edged up slightly, there are some 'chancers' emerging....
Yes, I'd noticed! :laughing2
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Re: rover 216 gti twin cam honda engine 5 door

#9 Post by 1234dist » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:37 am

i too am in the mindset that 100k is end of life :laughing2

So i just rebuild the engine and start again :cool
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