216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

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216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#1 Post by ashy90 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:23 am

I've recently bought a 5 door 216 GTI. I have noticed that the tailgate sticks out above the roof on the drivers side. Looking at it from the rear of the car, it doesn't appear to be too mis-aligned. Has anyone else experienced this?

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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#2 Post by 1234dist » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:08 am

Pics? :blink
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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#3 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:57 am

My old 216 had a misaligned boot. I can’t imagine it was like that from new so I could only think it had been involved in a shunt at some point in its life before I bought it.
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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#4 Post by Cromp85 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:33 pm

From my recent experience it could be slightly bent hinges or a bit of distortion in the panel they mount onto.
The other week i started the task of geting my boot to fit flush and watertight.
After a gust of wind caught my open boot back in 2015, no matter what i adjusted i could not get it to sit right.
Upon investigation i found cracked spot welds around the strut mountings, and the upper edge of the aperture (Part the hinges fit on) was not angled as it should have been. After a good session of hammering i got it all back level and finished up with a few small welds along the seams and over the cracks on the spot welds.
The whole job was less work than it sounds, removing the hatch itself being the worst bit. Its now all sealed, painted and reassembled with new hinges. This has fixed my leaky and misaligned boot. :cool
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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#5 Post by ashy90 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:20 pm

I did try to upload a photo, but I had no luck with photobucket which is what I used to use.

I cant add a photo directly on to here can I?

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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#6 Post by JOHNDQ » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:27 pm

Use Flickr, copy and paste the BB code from the share option


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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#8 Post by ashy90 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:24 pm

I think this should display the pictures

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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#9 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:45 pm

A partially seized hinge will put the tailgate out of alignment and also cause flexing of the panel that the hinge is fixed to.
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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#10 Post by Kriss707 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:43 pm

Speaking with my Panel Beating hat on, when you run out of adjustment and it still ain't right you call in Mr Bruteforce and bend it the way you want it to go, then try adjusting again. Repeat as necessary. If this method isn't possible you remove the offending panel and 'tease' with a block of wood and a hammer, if your gentle enough you may even get away with out breaking the paint.

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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#11 Post by StubbornPatriot » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:48 pm

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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#12 Post by 1234dist » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:20 pm

i bet that lets a bit of water in as well doesn't it.
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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#13 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:40 pm

Ooof- I don’t like the look of that :closedeyes
Hopefully you’ll get it sorted.
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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#14 Post by Kriss707 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:03 pm

Looking at your pic I would say the hinge mount is raised. With the tailgate up is the hinge flat to the body where it mounts ? It should look like the correctly fitting side.
There are many reasons a tailgate will kick up like that from rear end shunt to blowing up with a strong wind. I've seen worse in my past bodywork life.
Obviously without seeing it in the flesh I can only guess, but i would suggest the best way is tailgate off and knock the panel back down using a hammer and block of wood.
Hope this helps.

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Re: 216gti tailgate misaligned/higher than roof

#15 Post by alviseven » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:22 pm

I have had this on a car that has lived outside all its life. like someone said earlier its almost certainly a bent hinge as a result of it becoming seized. If you have a replacement one they are not that much trouble to replace pretty much in situ but you need someone to help you hold the boot lid whilst the operation is happening.
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