Trapped Dirt - front wing

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Trapped Dirt - front wing

#1 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:46 am

I got a set of mud flaps from POL and fitted them yesterday.

After taking off the finishers and peeling back the wheel arch liner, I was amazed to find a large amount of trapped dirt and even a bottle top.

So even if you are not intending to fit mud flaps, it is definitely worth while unscrewing the wing finisher to clean it out (and waxoyl) prior to refitting.
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#2 Post by 1234dist » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:04 am

Thats why i call the arch rim liners mud catchers
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#3 Post by Hammond » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:32 am

I've taken mine off to have rust done and a respray. Is it worth trying to seal them when I put them back? Maybe some professional sealant they use in swimming pools etc. After I've cleaned it out of course.
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#4 Post by crepello » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:42 am

There will probably be an accumulation of mud and compost washed down from the scuttle drains too. That will have accumulated in the void between the sill and the 'foot' of the wing. If it doesn't hose out, then removing the bottom fixing bolt will help. That will need some stonechip or paint to seal up afterwards of course.

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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#5 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:39 pm

Hammond wrote:I've taken mine off to have rust done and a respray. Is it worth trying to seal them when I put them back? Maybe some professional sealant they use in swimming pools etc. After I've cleaned it out of course.
I would definitely put some kind of waxoyl or similar there. You'll not stop the build up of dirt but the treatment will hopefully stop any rust forming.

I'm going to do a proper job on mine tonight and get them cleaned and treated prior to fitting the flaps. (I only did one mud flap last night before it got dark).
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#6 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:40 pm

crepello wrote:There will probably be an accumulation of mud and compost washed down from the scuttle drains too. That will have accumulated in the void between the sill and the 'foot' of the wing. If it doesn't hose out, then removing the bottom fixing bolt will help. That will need some stonechip or paint to seal up afterwards of course.
Good advice - I couldn't believe the amount of muck that accumulated, hence the picture for other enthusiasts to do the same. Every little helps! ;-)
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#7 Post by Vulgalour » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:11 pm

Had to do the same on my 414 shortly after getting it. In fact, I've had to do this job on every car I've owned, it seems to be a common problem.

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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#8 Post by Johnny 216GSi » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:57 pm

That's a neat pile. A photo of mine is posted on here somewhere, but I couldn't find it. I sprinkled mine on the garden - it looked fairly rich to me, like a special Rover compost - figured it would do the flowers some good.

Found it - in the thread/post I thought it would be in!

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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#9 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:12 pm

Rover compost :laughing

So.... The mud flaps are grey and not black, but beggars can't be choosers and they look OK to be fair.
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#10 Post by Hammond » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:46 pm

Is it best to spray the waxoyl on or brush it on?
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#11 Post by crepello » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:36 pm

I mostly squirtify mine, if only because getting into tight corners with a brush guarantees you'll catch the back of your hand and fetch some off again. I use an old thick artists' brush to do detail applications, such as between clamping surfaces or exposed bolt ends.

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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#12 Post by 1234dist » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:37 pm

Brush on, is a lot thicker but not good for getting in every nook and cranny
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#13 Post by Johnny 216GSi » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:15 pm

Paul_1978_yorks wrote:Rover compost :laughing

So.... The mud flaps are grey and not black, but beggars can't be choosers and they look OK to be fair.
A single pack of wurth black dye might do the trick here. I've never tried to do a colour change with it, but it covers well - better on softer plastics with a grain pattern like the bumpers and certainly the outsides of the mud flaps. The insides might need two thin coats.
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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#14 Post by 1234dist » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:33 pm

Best way to make sure you do it right is spray everywhere white first.

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Then brush it on liberally.

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Re: Trapped Dirt - front wing

#15 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:52 pm

Johnny 216GSi wrote:
Paul_1978_yorks wrote:Rover compost :laughing

So.... The mud flaps are grey and not black, but beggars can't be choosers and they look OK to be fair.
A single pack of wurth black dye might do the trick here. I've never tried to do a colour change with it, but it covers well - better on softer plastics with a grain pattern like the bumpers and certainly the outsides of the mud flaps. The insides might need two thin coats.
Cheers mate, I'll try that!
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