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Alloys At Launch

#1 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:06 pm

I'm interested to know what Alloys were available at launch - and I'm sure there used to be a brochure scan on the forum somewhere.
Can anyone help out?

Edit - or what later alloys suit cars with the grey bottom? Because I'm not sure SEi alloys do. I always fancied the later Octet alloys from the 25 for example.
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Re: Alloys At Launch

#2 Post by montegoman » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:03 pm

The 15" lattice alloys were available from launch on the 214GSi and 216GSi and also as part of a Sports Pack on the same models The Sports Pack consisted of lattice alloys, PAS & the R681 stereo. When the 400 was launched in 1990 the 416GTi got the lattice alloys as standard.
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Re: Alloys At Launch

#3 Post by GTiJohn » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:40 pm

montegoman wrote:The 15" lattice alloys were available from launch on the 214GSi and 216GSi and also as part of a Sports Pack on the same models The Sports Pack consisted of lattice alloys, PAS & the R681 stereo. When the 400 was launched in 1990 the 416GTi got the lattice alloys as standard.
The alloys are 14" :wink3
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#4 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:31 pm

Many thanks Montegoman.

Interesting that the lattice alloys are 14". I assumed they'd be 15".

So not many alloy options available at launch then?!
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#5 Post by GTiJohn » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:23 am

15s were launched with the 3-door. The initial 5-doors majored on comfort :)
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#6 Post by montegoman » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:03 am

Ok, I will give you that one John, but they were lower profile because they were 185 rather than 175.
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#7 Post by Johnny 216GSi » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:58 am

montegoman wrote:Ok, I will give you that one John, but they were lower profile because they were 185 rather than 175.
They were. But interestingly, I think I calculated the overall tyre o/d for the 14" steelies, 14" cross-spokes and 15" 7-spokes. They are all very similar, suggesting that a change in gearing won't be felt by the driver. Not done this for the original 15" 5-spokes though.
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#8 Post by GTiJohn » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:18 pm

Johnny 216GSi wrote:....interestingly, I think I calculated the overall tyre o/d for the 14" steelies, 14" cross-spokes and 15" 7-spokes. They are all very similar, suggesting that a change in gearing won't be felt by the driver. Not done this for the original 15" 5-spokes though.
That's pretty normal - it means you don't have to have a different speedo drive when you change from one wheel&tyre combo to another.

You choose tyres with a similar SLR (Static Laden Radius) to achieve this

The 185/55R15 and the 195/50R15 are that close for the same reason

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#9 Post by E_T_V » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:36 pm

GTiJohn wrote:
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Corrected it for you John :D

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Re: Alloys At Launch

#10 Post by Johnny 216GSi » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:52 pm

GTiJohn wrote:
Johnny 216GSi wrote:....interestingly, I think I calculated the overall tyre o/d for the 14" steelies, 14" cross-spokes and 15" 7-spokes. They are all very similar, suggesting that a change in gearing won't be felt by the driver. Not done this for the original 15" 5-spokes though.
That's pretty normal - it means you don't have to have a different speedo drive when you change from one wheel&tyre combo to another.

You choose tyres with a similar SLR (Static Laden Radius) to achieve this

The 185/55R15 and the 195/50R15 are that close for the same reason

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#11 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:50 pm

I have a set [5] of alloys that look identical to the GTi 5 spokes around the rim, the centre is cast differently however, with individual stud holes and and small centre cap with a Rover badge on it. What are they? I have just realised that they're not the 6 spoke Turbo wheels that are often referred to as the other alloy wheel option. :S
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#12 Post by Johnny 216GSi » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:04 pm

Mr Teddy Bear wrote:I have a set [5] of alloys that look identical to the GTi 5 spokes around the rim, the centre is cast differently however, with individual stud holes and and small centre cap with a Rover badge on it. What are they? I have just realised that they're not the 6 spoke Turbo wheels that are often referred to as the other alloy wheel option. :S
I've seen some Honda 5-spokes from the period. Maybe they're these and someone has dropped Rover centre caps into them.
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#13 Post by GTiJohn » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:23 am

Johnny 216GSi wrote:
Mr Teddy Bear wrote:I have a set [5] of alloys that look identical to the GTi 5 spokes around the rim, the centre is cast differently however, with individual stud holes and and small centre cap with a Rover badge on it. What are they? I have just realised that they're not the 6 spoke Turbo wheels that are often referred to as the other alloy wheel option. :S
I've seen some Honda 5-spokes from the period. Maybe they're these and someone has dropped Rover centre caps into them.
Probably right, unless they're the 14" Metro GTi wheel.

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Re: Alloys At Launch

#14 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:28 pm

It looks like I've been done! :laughing2

They're 15 " diameter wheels so exactly the same as the GTi, it's surprising if the Rover badge fitted a Honda wheel?

Perhaps they were a dealer special option, if not where have the centres come from [if the wheels are Honda].

I have a odd one with a good tyre on the 414, I will leave it on and let people judge for themselves at Gaydon in July.
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Re: Alloys At Launch

#15 Post by crepello » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:34 pm

Shouldn't there be a RRCnnnn number cast on the rear if they're Rover parts?

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