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Vinny's Rover 220 GSi Turbo Diary - New years eve 2019 - Gearbox issues

#1 Post by Vinny1979 » Fri May 31, 2019 7:53 pm

Well a long time in the making but this is the start of my project thread. Car was purchased in April 2010 @ circa 51k from Berger on Rovertech :sad

We are now into 2019 and the car has done 61000, it hasn't been on the road since December 2013 when I decided on a winter "tidy up" :laughing2

I have a full and extensive history with the car that I have added to over the years including the original sales receipt from 1994 iirc.

I will edit this properly as photo's are all out of sync and I have a lot to say :laughing2

Timeline

April 2010 - Bought car 220 GSi 51k
May 2010 - Turbo conversion from donor 420 GSi T (RIP)

Issues arose immediately, I knew the engine wasn't that great and was tired ( 100k ) but had good donor parts
November 2011 - Bought forged engine from Imran ( Rovertech ) formerly C2K and John C iirc
April 2012 Fitted forged engine week prior to POL 2012 engine was as new and car had covered 56k
Did a few car shows and drove occasionally
Dec 2013 - Took car off the road as needed to address gearbox and tired components
Summer 2015 - Stripped car to shell :laughing2
Over the next few years I gathered bits and pieces and refurbed stuff here and there
July 2018 - Over a week refitted virtually everything back to the car
Spring 2019 - Rebuild continues - Mileage 61k



Current specs

85mm Arias forged pistons
M series rods
Piper 270 fast road cams
Piper vernier pulleys
New crank and duraglide bearings
ARP headstuds
Klinger gasket
Magnecor HT leads
Vibra Technics Fast Road & Race engine and gearbox mounts
Fully polybushed underneath - various Supaflex etc
Poly exhaust mounts
Roversport front brace
Custom twin rear upper brace
Montego turbo K7AR gold label box fitted with Fully Synthetic MTF 94 oil
Type A diff removed, for now open diff
Roverdose stainless heat shield and Blitz filter
Rover T16 Exhaust Manifold Heat Shield
Rover T16 Inlet Manifold Mirror Stainless Trim
Full stainless upper and lower pipes
Samco coolant hose set
Sfs heater matrix hose set
Brembo 406 Coupe 4 pot calipers fully rebuilt
Brand new (2019) 326mm grooved front discs from RS Focus
260mm MG ZS 180 rear discs and calipers
Land Rover 300 TDI master cylinder with new front brake lines
HEL Red front braided brake lines with 406 adapters
Goodridge rear braided hoses
Toyo 600x300mm FMIC with hard piping
2 x Slimline fans fitted
Brand new recored turbo radiator fitted
Standard t25 turbo with mumby engineering manual boost controller under bonnet set 12psi currently
Forge blow off valve rebuilt with new internals and spring
Various hoses from Autosilcone hoses
Mongoose stainless exhaust system
Stainless de-cat
Stainless snake head downpipe
Genuine front and rear NOS Targa red bumper inserts and custom trim for rub strips
Front and rear r8 mudflaps
MG TF wheel with modified horn squib and MG ZR cowling
Later bubble dash fitted from 96 on Rover 200
MG ZR dash pocket fitted
MGF interior mirror fitted
Black coupe carpet
TOAD alarm with remote locking and tracker
New plates ( Old were stolen in 2015 )
Genuine headlight covers
New head unit and speakers fitted factory spec
New Battery relocated to boot with custom wiring and circuit breaker
228mm diesel clutch kit
Brand new sachs front shocks, brand new rear gmax sport shocks with gmax springs
New Alternator fitted May 2019
New water pump and cambelt
New genuine diff seals fitted
New cv joints and front abs sensors
New wheel bearings
New front lower arms
New track rod ends
New fuel tank
Rear bumper side vents removed and re sealed


Car fully stripped and fresh underbody coating applied, primer, brantho kurrux paint and tetrosyl stonechip and wax applied circa 5 coats in all
Front and rear suspension components fully removed, cleaned up and repainted, front and rear subframes cleaned, primered and re painted, car looks superb underneath. When the car was new the owner had it all coated in a thick covering which has kept it superb.

I do have a genuine rear oil crank seal and gasket set that I will probably look at doing this winter, lets see how it goes this summer, I know the mentioned was last done in 2009, so its not ancient as such

So onto a few pics

The picture that made me buy it in 2010 ( sorry it's small )

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May 2010

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Someone sent me some pictures of the car prior to maybe 2007 but unsure

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Fitting the forged engine November 2011
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Old 216GTi

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This was at East Kirkby Rover rally car show at with Fatdave and Mike88 (Mowgli?) maybe 2013?

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On the Rover 200 stand next to Fatdave, I think this was a Peterborough show? Maybe Ferry Meadows 2013?

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Possibly POL 2012 but unsure

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Incident 2013 aka Sheriff badge wheel, UK roads

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2011 repairs
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2012

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Strip Down

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Front discs had seen better days and were worn unevenly :headbanging (2014)

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General state of play 2014 strip down
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Testing spare wheels I obtained Jan 2019

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More clearance here than the Superleggerras!

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Had the bent wheel repaired March 2019

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Very quick refurb of bent wheel, tbh I wanted to see what it painted like as the cost was sub £10. Work to do but would get me by for the summer of track days and a few shows before I decide what to do wheel wise

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Daily MG ZS 180

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My old zs 180 circa 2009
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ABS light was on after I got it all back together

:laughing2

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Custom rear brace

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Battery to boot mid installation

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Caliper paint experiment, aborted March 2019, before new lines fitted

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Refurbing a friends brembo calipers, painted by a blind chimp :slapme

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My buddies Corrado 1.8t we have been building, this has been the inspiration to get my car back together hence the mention, been to a few track days at Cadwell too, we have this Corrado 267bhp, my other buddy has a 258 bhp Renault Megane r26 and finally the last member has a 2.0 GTi 6 205. So between us we have some pretty fun cars! Recent images, plus some from Cadwell 30/05/19

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Goodies I picked up late 2018, new unused brembodge discs and fitting kit, to replace my worn ones

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snow 2015

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Our MG ZR 2015

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Current rear end as of May 2019

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#2 Post by Pencil Tip » Fri May 31, 2019 8:18 pm

Massive respect to you Vinny. Very, very trick spec. I can see why it has been so long off the road. :cool

Is there light at the end of the tunnel? Any timescale for completion? I can remember following your re-build on Rovertech before it folded.
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#3 Post by Vinny1979 » Fri May 31, 2019 8:26 pm

Current Engine

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Rear circa dec 2018

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:laughing2 2013 East Kirkby

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#4 Post by Vinny1979 » Fri May 31, 2019 8:31 pm

Pencil Tip wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 8:18 pm
Massive respect to you Vinny. Very, very trick spec. I can see why it has been so long off the road. :cool

Is there light at the end of the tunnel? Any timescale for completion? I can remember following your re-build on Rovertech before it folded.
Thank you! Very kind, I have lots more to show looks much better now suspension wise and underneath etc most stuff is like new or as new

So the car moves, brakes (just!)

To do

Buy tyres ( Nankang ns2-r semi slicks)
Re bleed brakes
Re fit side spats
Re align bumper, bonnet and one wing as removed it all
Alignment
Possible knuckle ( passenger side )
MOT

Genuinely at 95% here! :)

It has taken longer as I have a family and cannot just throw cash at this, for a guess it owes me £5000 including buying it in 2010. Which I dont think is bad tbh. I have been picking up bits here and there as they pop up, any bargains I grab.

I dont need the tyres for an MOT as I can cobble together some, I wouldnt want a massive mot issue and £350 worth of tyres sat there :laughing2
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#5 Post by Vinny1979 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:26 pm

So my Rimmer Bros order arrived today. the front bumper inserts. Needed slight modification but all fitted, gave me chance to check crash bar and bolts which were freed easily, and re fitted after the new trim went on

Im quite pleased with how it looks, front end isn't alligned yet but couldn't resist a few picures

Please ignore wheels as they are merely to keep it rolling

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#6 Post by Pencil Tip » Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:20 pm

I'm truly blown away by your 220, it looks stunning Vinny. The red inserts look good. Dare I say, it looks a bit a like a 205 GTi. Personally, I think the silver alloys look better than the black. :cool Do you think you will have it finished in time for Gaydon on July 7th?
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#7 Post by Vinny1979 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:33 pm

The rears are some brm wheels, I only have 2 Superlegerra's with tyres, the other are being refurbed. I need to run 17s for the brakes :laughing2

Its not perfect, the roof needs a respray at some point and a few bits and pieces, but overall for 25 years old its not too bad :laughing2

It does need a good clean but the paint does polish up well when I can be bothered and the spats need fitting again

I will photograph the bits I want to sort, but currently its what needs doing for the road

If that makes sense?

Funny you say about the 205. My friend has a white one.... with red inserts :laughing2

Regarding Gaydon, That would be nice if I could wouldnt it! :cool

My mrs hates the red. :laughing2 The chrome was fading and going clear in places so...
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#8 Post by ROVER-25X » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:40 pm

WOW this thread broke my laptop ! :blink

Been waiting for this major thread about your build, some journey mate and still a ways to go, bit inspirational to me ! :clapping

Impressive snapped spring ! :slapme

That battery instal is what I am planning to do, thanks for the pic. :wink3

Blind Chimp. :laughing2

I have parking sensors for my Cabby off my old MGF standing by, I like your fitment of the sensors. :D

Love that current front end pic, sex AF ! :o

New Profile Pic for sure. :D
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#9 Post by Vinny1979 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:51 pm

ROVER-25X wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:40 pm
WOW this thread broke my laptop ! :blink

Been waiting for this major thread about your build, some journey mate and still a ways to go, bit inspirational to me ! :clapping

Impressive snapped spring ! :slapme

That battery instal is what I am planning to do, thanks for the pic. :wink3

Blind Chimp. :laughing2

I have parking sensors for my Cabby off my old MGF standing by, I like your fitment of the sensors. :D

Love that current front end pic, sex AF ! :o

New Profile Pic for sure. :D
I have so much to post and type :laughing2

Many thanks for the kind words!

The battery install was easy

£20 of cable, £10 tray and a £10 breaker
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#10 Post by ROVER-25X » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:06 pm

I have had these bits on my ebay watch list ever since we chatted about it on RT. :D

All added as a guide and i'll make a final evaluation of what I will need before buying and double check
they are the exact suitable items I need and the best prices.



TRAY: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-02 ... 2425386870

CABLE: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5m-Red-Batte ... 2289718763

CUT OFF FUSE: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC12V-24V-15 ... 2021074838

BATTERY TERMINALS: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Batter ... Swz4JbefiM

TERMINAL COVERS: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Battery- ... Sw4ohcVudd

ISOLATOR TERMINAL: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Battery- ... SwT~9c4niP

6 WAY FUSE BOX: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-24V-Univ ... Sw7~JbKwbh
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#11 Post by GTiJohn » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:46 pm

Wow!

Just WOW! :*laughs*
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#12 Post by ROVER-25X » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:22 pm

Did you have to put coal in your server too in order to get the main page to load ? :laughing2
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#13 Post by JOHNDQ » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:32 pm

ROVER-25X wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:06 pm
I have had these bits on my ebay watch list ever since we chatted about it on RT. :D

All added as a guide and i'll make a final evaluation of what I will need before buying and double check
they are the exact suitable items I need and the best prices.



TRAY: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-02 ... 2425386870

CABLE: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5m-Red-Batte ... 2289718763

CUT OFF FUSE: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC12V-24V-15 ... 2021074838

BATTERY TERMINALS: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Batter ... Swz4JbefiM

TERMINAL COVERS: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Battery- ... Sw4ohcVudd

ISOLATOR TERMINAL: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Battery- ... SwT~9c4niP

6 WAY FUSE BOX: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-24V-Univ ... Sw7~JbKwbh
35mm2 battery cable are you starting 2 rovers :laughing2

Love the 220 tho my fav R8 on any of the forums Vinny

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#14 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:24 pm

Nice thread, keep the pictures and commentary going Vinny! :clapping

Some more back ground on those front brakes would be interesting? I'm always aware that the standard brakes are a liability especially on the Mway.
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#15 Post by Vinny1979 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:17 pm

Mr Teddy Bear wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:24 pm
Nice thread, keep the pictures and commentary going Vinny! :clapping

Some more back ground on those front brakes would be interesting? I'm always aware that the standard brakes are a liability especially on the Mway.
So the brakes

They are a 326mm mk1 RS Focus front disc redrilled to 4x100 and they have a mm taken from the centre bore to match the rovers.

The calipers are a brembo 4 pot from the 3.0V6 406 coupe

Plus a steel adapter plate and 4 bolts some washers and small spacers

It’s a great kit that was once a group buy on Rovertech, minus the calipers

I do have a spare set of the steel adapters if anyone thinks they could get them copied, maybe a group buy on here of 5 or 10 sets if anyone else wants this conversion.

You can get discs redrilled for around £125 which includes purchase via mtec

The calipers are pot luck £50 to £150

Rebuild kit price is £60 easy job

Braking is superb
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