Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#16 Post by GTiJohn » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:16 pm

Our stand is located in Hall 9, not far from the live stage.

We share an 'island' with the Rover 800 club and the P6 Rover Owners' Club.


Our stand must be 9-565 to be on the same island as these clubs but the official plan online suggests this is a Mini club - http://www.necrestorationshow.com/sites ... lan%29.pdf

It does seem the wrong place for them but then the plan's dated Nov '15...

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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#17 Post by montegoman » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:41 pm

You are looking at an out of date layout plan John. The Mini club have moved to a larger stand elsewhere. There is a an up to date plan somewhere on the 'net!
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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#18 Post by GTiJohn » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:17 pm

montegoman wrote:You are looking at an out of date layout plan John. The Mini club have moved to a larger stand elsewhere. There is a an up to date plan somewhere on the 'net!
Thought that would be the case...

Just that's the link that comes up on top of a goooooooooooooogle search :laughing2
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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#19 Post by 1234dist » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:57 pm

You need to "bing it"



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#20 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:31 pm

Can one still ask Jeeves?? :laughing2

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#21 Post by StubbornPatriot » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:59 pm

Hi – Sorry, I’ve been without an internet for just over a week and am now playing catch-up.

With respect to the ‘K” series engine:-

I currently have a wreck of a 416 Tourer with an engine that needs (at least) the head gasket doing. My original suggestion was to do an engine swap at the show (I have a spare, supposedly good, replacement engine at home). If we were to do an engine swap, I would also like to do the steering rack and probably the c.v. joints at the same time (and maybe anything else that becomes easy to get at while the engine is out).

Once the old engine was out we could then do the ‘K’ Series bit on the removed engine, but we could well be running rather short of time by then.

The issues regarding an engine swap:-

1. Need to get the whole car and spare engine trailered there and back.
2. Need to get a lot of toolkit there, including a hoist.
3. This would be a very messy job, but I could drain all the fluids before the show.
4. We are going to get very messy doing this job – what are the washing facilities / arrangements at this show?
5. There would be little opportunity to have anything else happening on other cars.

I would only think this would be worthwhile if there are members of the club who would like to treat this show as either a learning, or teaching opportunity (a bit like a ‘fix it day’ but only using my car). It would be a great opportunity for less experienced home mechanics to learn and practice under the guidance of the more experienced. If we could get some real experts involved then even the more experienced could learn something. I don’t know what the appeal would be to the paying public, but maybe some of them would like to see classic car owners actually getting their hands dirty.

Any thoughts on this? Does anyone in the club want to come along and learn these things? Equally, does anyone want to be a tutor?

If we go for just the ‘K’ Series option then we would only have to get an engine there. My concern would be that we could not do an entire head gasket change if there is any sign of the head needing a skim (unless there is an engineering company on site that could do it there). I assume that we also have problems if the liners have dropped, or any other unexpected problems become apparent. If we can’t do the whole job, there may only be activity on the engine for a couple of hours, even including a water pump change. A head strip in preparation for skimming might add another hour or two. Or are we looking to dismantle the whole engine?

I need this firmed up by the start of next week (15th Feb) really because I will need a couple of days to whip the engine out ready.

And does anyone have a crankshaft locking tool for the ‘K’ Series? If not, I’ll have to slacken the crank pulley nut before I remove the engine.

I'm not looking to dominate proceedings here, it was just an idea. If other members have things they want to do or see done they can take priority. They might be easier to organise and allow more topics to be covered during the weekend.

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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#22 Post by crepello » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:28 pm

That's a sound idea. It's just a little too soon for me to commit to, as I'm tidying up for the next few months after the death of my Dad.

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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#23 Post by GTiJohn » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:58 pm

We're in a bit of a Goldilocks situation here...

A whole engine change might be too much unless there's a lot of preparation - fluid drain etc - and a gasket look-see might be a bit short.

The trailering is the big question because if you can get it there we can find lots of jobs to keep us busy and the head could be done each day on the stand-alone engine, just more completely the second day.

We may well be able to borrow an R8-sized trailer but probably not a tow car. It might be ok for us to borrow it for a couple of weeks if that would help and if it would be safely looked after.
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#24 Post by StubbornPatriot » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:08 pm

The trailer would be looked after and although it would be outside on the drive I could box it in to keep it secure. I don't have a tow car though, so there is no point in pursuing this unless one can be found. If anyone is considering an offer of help, the car is located close to Northampton. Where is the trailer John?
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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#25 Post by GTiJohn » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:32 pm

The trailer is in Leamington, so reasonably local...

Outside is where it's usually stored so is fine. We can borrow it for that long.
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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#26 Post by GTiJohn » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:18 pm

Nearly there with a plan of what we'll be doing on the stand but we're not going to attempt a full engine swap during our first visit to this show :laughing2

More to follow shortly :)
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#27 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:12 pm

And a limited supply of free tickets available to any club members who would like to come along and get their hands dirty :)

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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#28 Post by GTiJohn » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:53 pm

The plans for the weekend activities include:-

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Front and rear bumper removal for application of rust prevention treatment
Front wing cavity clean

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Accessory fit of sill extensions and lamp guards

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Basic servicing – plugs, plug leads, filters incl cabin, brake pads & shoes
Electrical earths clean up

K-series engine
Head off for inspection of mating surfaces & bores

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#29 Post by 1234dist » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:49 am

and if you are north of birmingham come join me :laughing2

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Re: Practical Classics Restoration Show, NEC, 5-6 March 2016

#30 Post by kevinwillis » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:30 am

Looks like you will be left out in the cold then!

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