Dailying an R8 or 45

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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#16 Post by JOHNDQ » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:03 am

220 GSi turbo wrote:
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I have been running Rovers as daily drives since 2005: a great way of spending my company mileage allowance on treats instead of depreciation!

214 SEi (ran to 201,000 miles), 420 Tourer, (R3) 220 SDi diesel, several 25 diesel, a couple of 1.4 petrol 25s and a ZR diesel. Oh, and a few months with a 1.8 petrol 45. Latest drive is a 25 GTi (1.8VVC).

Personally, although they are the easiest versions to get hold of, I would avoid any of the 1.4 petrols: a lot of the 25s only had 84bhp and the 45 is a little heavy for the 103bhp 1.4 unless you are mainly doing town driving.
I have not tried a 1.6, but would definitely recommend the 1.8: plenty of torque and relatively high gearing means fuel economy is little worse than a 1.4. This engine is not particularly common in the R3 (other than the ZR120), the options being an early 218 iS or 25GTi if you can find one! Plenty of 45s around, though (Impression S was a good spec).
Diesels are rapid, reliable and economical; the only real concern being the gearbox after about 120,000 miles if the car has been driven hard.

I have always preferred the 25 over the 45 because of the smaller size/ease of parking and the 'chuckable' handling.

On the basis that all are now 15+ years old, I can't imagine that Fords, Vauxhalls, VVWs, Peugeots etc etc of similar age and price range would be any better!
Be prepared for random water leaks into the footwells and boot, electrical faults on post-2003 Rovers (Pektron modules) and fragile external door handles on the 400/45.

If going for an R8, 216 SLi or earlier GSi have to be the best buy (reliable and refined).
I've always found the 1.8 better on fuel than the 1.4 since to don't have to drive it with your foot on the floor to get anywhere

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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#17 Post by Nigel B » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:09 am

Craig MGR wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:26 am
Nigel B wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:31 pm
Utilise a R8 416Sli Tourer as my daily, average 9,000 per annum in this, average around 30mpg (so not the most economical).
It has been used for a family holiday to Paris and over the past few weeks been back and forth between Birmingham and Fulham to facilitate daughters move to university.
Can not speak more highly off it other than to say it is still being used as it was intended, and has been for the last 2 years.
Previously used a Rover 45 1.6 Classic for 2 years as the family car.

Which car did you find the most comfortable to drive ? Was there a big difference in refinement?

I'm possibly looking getting a R8 214 as a daily to commute to work in the near future.
The 45 was more refined, but have more fun and am comfortable in the Tourer (did 1000 last week) and have no qualms in recommending a R8 for daily use.

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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#18 Post by Dorchester » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:41 pm

My 25 1.4 102bhp remapped to 110bhp by Saws tuning looks a perfect daily for my best half who is happy with it.
Easy to park, very responsive, fuelled by full E85 (ethanol) so a cheap & cheerful car for any day of the year.
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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#19 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:22 pm

My 1.4 K Series goes like a rocket, in fact to much power compared to the mediocre brakes :sad
I think that all the 2/416's came with a bonnet acoustic blanket whereas the lower spec 1.4's didn't, that seems to make a lot of difference to cabin noise levels.
Still possible to mix and match before all the rougher ones disappear though?
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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#20 Post by Craig MGR » Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:48 pm

My 95 214 never had an underbonnet pad. Fitting it did make the engine seem a little smoother.

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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#21 Post by crepello » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:38 pm

Mr Teddy Bear wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:22 pm
I think that all the 2/416's came with a bonnet acoustic blanket whereas the lower spec 1.4's didn't, that seems to make a lot of difference to cabin noise levels.
My 1991 poverty spec 214 from 1991 did have the acoustic blanket from new. Perhaps it was the 1992 build revisions which removed it?

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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#22 Post by montegoman » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:42 pm

They all had them at launch. They may have been deleted as a costing saving in later years.
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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#23 Post by JOHNDQ » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:57 pm

crepello wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:38 pm
Mr Teddy Bear wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:22 pm
I think that all the 2/416's came with a bonnet acoustic blanket whereas the lower spec 1.4's didn't, that seems to make a lot of difference to cabin noise levels.
My 1991 poverty spec 214 from 1991 did have the acoustic blanket from new. Perhaps it was the 1992 build revisions which removed it?
My Sprint had it 93 model year

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Re: Dailying an R8 or 45

#24 Post by Craig MGR » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:33 pm

Is there a list of soundproofing that was deleted or downgraded over the R8 lifespan - a bit like a R8 'project drive' list .

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