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Starting problems again!!

#1 Post by Brum » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:50 pm

I am having problems starting the car I recently had it in the garage because of this they jump started it and it’s been fine for about a week they couldn’t find anything wrong with it. It has had a new ignition model new plugs and a new earth cable. The battery is fully charged and it turns over fine when the RAC came out to it they said there was no spark and then towed it to the garage as he didn’t have a clue has anyone got any ideas I’m afraid it’s days are numbered if it carries on like this despite the fact it’s immaculate and only done 38k miles I can’t cope with it’s unreliability.

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#2 Post by 1234dist » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:06 pm

no spark leads you to look at coil, plugs, leads, dizzy, rotor, crank position sensor and proper gaps on plugs (if new).
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#3 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:46 pm

Pound to a penny it’s the rotor arm!

Cheap fix too so got to be worth a try.
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Re: Starting problems again!!

#4 Post by rover416 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:00 pm

One of my K series engined tourers has a love of rotor arms, the new replcements don't seem to last long I,ve taken to carrying a spare in the car along with a socket to change it. Ironic that in my original tourer which I still have, it's done over 240K on the same one.

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Re: Starting problems again!!

#5 Post by Brum » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:41 pm

Hi thanks for your replies the Rotor arm was replaced not that long ago but the RAC guy did say there was a tiny bit of scoring on it my hubbys just put jump leads on it and it started within 2 seconds even though the battery was showing it had 12.3 charge in it before he put them on it has done this before probably run for a few days and then won’t start again could it be something to do with the relay? The guy at the garage said if it did it again try knocking it?

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#6 Post by 1234dist » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:51 pm

have you resoldered the mfu? (assuming honda)?
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Re: Starting problems again!!

#7 Post by Brum » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:55 pm

It is the Honda 1.6 engine what is the Mfu? Thanks Beverley

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#8 Post by 1234dist » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:57 pm

The brown fuel relay under the dash at drivers side a pillar.

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#9 Post by GTiJohn » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:13 pm

1234dist wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:57 pm
The brown fuel relay under the dash at drivers side a pillar.

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This is the fuel relay and a very common starting, which often starts with re-starting problems. It sits 'round the back of the centre console by the front passenger's ankles

The MFU is the Multi Function Unit that sits behind the interior fusebox, situated above the driver's shins, which I'm not sure is repairable...

My money's on the relay if it's not the dizzy
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#10 Post by 1234dist » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:16 pm

i'll happily do the solder work if you can get to me
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Re: Starting problems again!!

#11 Post by Brum » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:25 pm

Im off work tomorrow and Wednesday but need the car for Thursday is that any good? My son could bring it tomorrow morning? I’ve been to your house once before when a few members were helping clear your garage out

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#12 Post by 1234dist » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:32 pm

All my kits down at the unit now, so will need to find a way of fitting you in as the unit is a s*** tip at the moment as we get ready to move to the big new unit.
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