Power Steering When New

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Re: Power Steering When New

#16 Post by henryiett » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:02 pm

Most alarms of the period were awful
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Re: Power Steering When New

#17 Post by engtmitc » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:32 am

I had a Parkers guide book which I seem to recall said PAS was standard from April 1993.
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Re: Power Steering When New

#18 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:22 pm

I can still visualise the pile of manual steering racks and subframes at my family's Rover dealership in the mid 1990s.

Rover did a special 'package deal' for dealers on a retrofit PAS kit and secondhand R8s without PAS were quite difficult to shift (pun probably intended!)
Trade-in values were adjusted as far as possible to allow the upgrade to be carried out.

And although many enthusiasts dislike the chrome grille nowadays on R8s, it was another thing that often clinched the deal on a non-grille car (again, Rover had a kit available containing the grille, fitting instructions and a bonnet-drilling template).

The pile of manual steering components later gave way to a pile of steel wheels from new HH/R Rover 400s, after Rover did a subsidised dealer-fit alloy wheel upgrade to help shift slow-moving stock.
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Re: Power Steering When New

#19 Post by Montegoman » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:53 pm

I remember the stack of steel wheels taken off the HH/Rs at Souls at the time.
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Re: Power Steering When New

#20 Post by richard moss » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:28 pm

We had a 1992 416 SLi (Honda engine) which had no PAS. My father-in-law had a 216 GSi at the same time and I have to say that like all Honda egined Rovers, I hated the "feel free" PAS on that.

Thankfully Rover's system on the K series cars was way better
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Re: Power Steering When New

#21 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:26 pm

Surely it's the same? :S
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Re: Power Steering When New

#22 Post by richard moss » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:49 pm

Mr Teddy Bear wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:26 pm
Surely it's the same? :S
Nope
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Re: Power Steering When New

#23 Post by JDrake » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:28 am

I've removed the full pas set up and am planning to retro fit (or have it fitted) on my 214 3dr 93...is there anything I need to be aware of.. I'm having everything refurbished or replaced prior to fitting.. Is the subframe the same on both versions for example?

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Re: Power Steering When New

#24 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:37 am

JDrake wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:28 am
I've removed the full pas set up and am planning to retro fit (or have it fitted) on my 214 3dr 93...is there anything I need to be aware of.. I'm having everything refurbished or replaced prior to fitting.. Is the subframe the same on both versions for example?
The subframe differs between the Honda & K Series engines, it's bound to if you think about it as the engines are the other way-around in the engine bay; Japanese engines run backwards & British engines run clockwise looking at the crank pulley end.
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Re: Power Steering When New

#25 Post by GTiJohn » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:05 am

Mr Teddy Bear wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:37 am
JDrake wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:28 am
I've removed the full pas set up and am planning to retro fit (or have it fitted) on my 214 3dr 93...is there anything I need to be aware of.. I'm having everything refurbished or replaced prior to fitting.. Is the subframe the same on both versions for example?
The subframe differs between the Honda & K Series engines, it's bound to if you think about it as the engines are the other way-around in the engine bay; Japanese engines run backwards & British engines run clockwise looking at the crank pulley end.
That's pretty much it. We tried very hard to get the frame and PAS pipes to fit with the diff casings of K- and D-series powertrains but couldn't find one design which fitted all, and that's before RHD/LHD versions and 'extras' such as M16 and PG1....

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Re: Power Steering When New

#26 Post by JDrake » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:48 am

Yeah the donor car was also k series but had the later injection.. Mines the earlier spi..
So can I use my original rear subframe for the swap? I did remove the subframe so have it.. Just deciding if its worth having blasted for the swap.. Thank you

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Re: Power Steering When New

#27 Post by crepello » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:30 pm

JDrake wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:48 am
So can I use my original rear subframe for the swap?
No. The PS rack is too fat for that.

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Re: Power Steering When New

#28 Post by JDrake » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:52 pm

Perfect thanks,, I'll get the donor cradle blasted and painted then...

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Re: Power Steering When New

#29 Post by Monster Hunter » Sat May 01, 2021 4:58 pm

My 1990 214sli did not have it..
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