420GSI Tourer various fixes

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#16 Post by MatthewL » Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:53 pm

It works! Well. 3 of about 10 heater bars work now! Will have to see if I can magic others back into life now.

Can recommend this repair kit.

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#17 Post by MatthewL » Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:25 pm

I’ve been running out of time for things which I can’t fix quickly so a friend in the village is doing some bodywork for me.

He’s tidied up the sill seams and painted them and has sorted the rusty patch by the passenger indicator repeater. Next is the trickier roof lip section. Looking forward to it all getting done. Car will be far from concourse but should be tidy. Important with only 12 surviving on the road now!

In other exciting news i’ve bought 4 original GSI 15” wheels and plan to fit 195/50s to them. This will reduce my rolling circumference by 10% and make the speedometer slightly over-read rather than massively under read as it does on the 205/55 r16s it has now. 10% better acceleration and more originality - plus no more rubbing inner arches! Win, win, win!!

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#18 Post by MatthewL » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:35 pm

Sadly my pal who is getting used to his new paint gun has soaked it in lacquer so I have a great colour match but a tonne of runs to go with it. Problem for a dry day to sort out.

Anyway, I’ve noticed a soaked carpet in the boot. The boot floor board was sodden at one side. At first I was unsure where the water was coming from but having removed the tail light … after a frosty night … I can now see:

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So I’ve cleaned up the lamp (found an old smashed bulb inside it) and added 1.5mm double sided adhesive tape to the foam and on the car body. Test with a watering can seems to imply it’s fixed. Thankfully it must be a recent leak as there’s no rot inside the car, just a spot of surface rust which i’ve treated.

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I think the wife thought I was obsessing when I was air drying the washed tail lamp and then drying the washed foam with a heat gun!

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#19 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:31 pm

Looking good! We’ll have to fix up a quick meet some time! There’s a few of us up north Yorkshire/Lancs/North East!
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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#20 Post by Vinny1979 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:24 pm

My rear screen heater tab has broken exactly the same as yours

Can you please give me the link for the part?

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#21 Post by MatthewL » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:11 pm

Hi Vinny

It’s discontinued on Amazon! Looks like they’ve stopped making it. I have seen it on this website but I have no idea if this is a legit website

https://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/36629632/pe ... gJ38_D_BwE

If you search for ASIN B000HBGKWE you may find other suppliers. I’d recommend watching the video on YouTube on how to use it. I followed the video and it has been perfect. Many people slated it on Amazon but I reckon they chose a cold day, used too much glue or didn’t leave it 24 hours to set before attaching the wire.

Good luck!

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#22 Post by MatthewL » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:13 pm

Paul_1978_yorks wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:31 pm
Looking good! We’ll have to fix up a quick meet some time! There’s a few of us up north Yorkshire/Lancs/North East!
Sounds great Paul - would love to meet up. My pal in the village is now hankering after a 216GTI - people seem to love these cars!

I do need to find a new heater matrix though. My car is at best like warm in the cold weather. Wondering if the engine is running too cold though as tickover remains stubbornly high.

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#23 Post by MatthewL » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:39 pm

Quick question… what thermostat should my 420GSI have? Is it an opens-at-88 degrees one? I ask as the car sits neatly with the temp gauge never getting above 1/3 (albeit never moving once there) and the heater is a tepid at best. Wondering if it needs e.g. a 90+ degree one. Thoughts anyone?

If it’s the right one does anyone know anyone with a spare interior heater matrix and controls?

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#24 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:55 pm

Have you flushed it through?
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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#25 Post by MatthewL » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:07 pm

I’ve changed the coolant but not flushed it. Could this cause the low temp?

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#26 Post by crepello » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:32 pm

MatthewL wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:07 pm
I’ve changed the coolant but not flushed it. Could this cause the low temp?
If the heater matrix is clogged to any degree, then quite possibly!

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#27 Post by MatthewL » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:36 pm

Good call. Of course - not thought of that. Will get it flushed. Thanks for the tip.

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#28 Post by 961tat » Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:06 pm

MatthewL wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:36 pm
Good call. Of course - not thought of that. Will get it flushed. Thanks for the tip.
Put a hose pipe on it and flush it both ways if you need a matrix I have some and controls .

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#29 Post by MatthewL » Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:37 pm

Hi there. I’m definitely interested if you’re willing to sell. This evening I turned the slightly stiff air-direction control which now spins uselessly. Also my temp adjuster doesn’t quite go full blue to full red. On the plus side the fan speed works!

I shall try flushing. Assume the pipes are easy to find in the engine bay?

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Re: 420GSI Tourer various fixes

#30 Post by crepello » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:36 pm

MatthewL wrote:
Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:37 pm
Hi there. I’m definitely interested if you’re willing to sell. This evening I turned the slightly stiff air-direction control which now spins uselessly. Also my temp adjuster doesn’t quite go full blue to full red. On the plus side the fan speed works!

I shall try flushing. Assume the pipes are easy to find in the engine bay?
Maybe you need to fish the whole heater unit out and clean & re-lubricate the moving parts (vanes etc.)!
A lot of it is worked by wire-in-tube (low-cost Bowden cable principle). You'd probably find disintegrated
foam gaskets as well.

The pipes are the only two going through the bulkhead. Could be fun getting the hoses off - if you're too
brutal, you might be back here for a replacement control valve. Might turn out to be safer to unplug the
hoses at the engine end, put a bung in any surplus ends to stop water just by-passing the heater loop.

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