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Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#1 Post by Dorchester » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:46 pm

Here is my misery: the jack doesn't stick to its base any longer. :o

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Could anyone point me to the pieces and mainly references I need to save the jack?
Where can I find them? There's no scrappy here around offering any Rover cab pieces! :S

Thanks a lot for your help! :)

N.B. the white wrapping around the jack was done to avoid any bang inside the cabin.
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#2 Post by Dorchester » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:02 pm

BTW which is the best fluid for the hood hydraulic system?
Any precise detail is warmly welcome.
Thanks a lot. :)
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#3 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:16 am

Unless it’s a sentimental jack it’s probably easier to buy a new one.
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#4 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:02 am

Paul, I think it is the hydraulic ram (jack) that raises and lowers the Cabriolet hood :wink3

I am sure our cabby guru Chris will be along with a solution soon :)
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#5 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:43 am

Dorchester wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:02 pm
BTW which is the best fluid for the hood hydraulic system?
Any precise detail is warmly welcome.
Thanks a lot. :)
I have a copy of the workshop manual that includes the cabbby hydraulics if you put up a bigger picture of what we're looking at [I'm not a cabby devotee ] I will try to help you.
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#6 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:36 pm

220 GSi turbo wrote:
Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:02 am
Paul, I think it is the hydraulic ram (jack) that raises and lowers the Cabriolet hood :wink3
Ahhhahaaa, I see! :laughing2
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#7 Post by Dorchester » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:47 pm

Thank you for all your answers chaps!

As Paul has said it's better to get rid of the rusty & crusty jack and put a new one in place. No sentimental feelings for the poor old one. The other 27 year old one will yet resist a while I hope.
It's utterly unbelievable to see so much rust in that spot when there is absolutely none elsewhere.
The only spot I couldn't guess unless taking off the trim... But no surprise: the old hood was in a very sorry condition... That's why.
I can't accept to live with a half damaged jack and my mechanic isn't so keen to do such a poor job: it doesn't worth time & hassle.

Hence I've just ordered from Rimmers the Lift assembly-convertible hood power - DXQ10001 - Genuine MG Rover and a new nut GHF233 for 129.08€ (£93.00 without VAT & £0.27 + shipping) as shown here: Rover 200/400 to 95 Hood Lift Mechanism. I'll have to be taxed and pay our French VAT at delivery as usual now since the 1st of January.
BTW the other one is still attached and functioning but my good man will take off a little rust at the bottom anyway to get both clean and in good order for 10 more years... at last! :D
I want to stay proud of my cabby and my other Rovers. :)
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#8 Post by Dorchester » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:58 pm

Mr Teddy Bear wrote:
Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:43 am
Dorchester wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:02 pm
BTW which is the best fluid for the hood hydraulic system?
Any precise detail is warmly welcome.
Thanks a lot. :)
I have a copy of the workshop manual that includes the cabbby hydraulics if you put up a bigger picture of what we're looking at [I'm not a cabby devotee ] I will try to help you.
It's simple: I'm after any information about the best fluid with the convenient viscosity for the hood hydraulic system. Name, spec, link...
I was told it may be a mineral oil, reddish, 32 spec, like ATF Dexron II D: am I wrong?
Thanks. :)
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#9 Post by 961tat » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:24 pm

Atf is fine and I have all the parts here second hand you will need sorry didn't look at this because the heading was hydraulic jack , they are hydraulic rams and I have them plus pumps and relays and spares for the hood frames etc .

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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#10 Post by Dorchester » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:27 am

I'm now answering my own question
I was told by a staff member of the Rover Club de France (I guess he is a Rover dealer's son) that in France they used Owatrol Compensyl as hood system fluid.
It looks a very efficient & secure stuff.

Viscosity (cSt) : 50,2 à 20°C / 20,9 à 40°C / 4,24 à 100°C.
Grade ISO : 22.
Viscosity : 107 (NF T 60-136).
Flow point : - 36°C allowing its use at low temperature.
Use range : from - 25 to + 65°C.
Inflammable point (V.O) : + 197°C

Ordered.
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#11 Post by Dorchester » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:17 pm

I've received today my lifter as expected... but...

Have a look on Rimmers website page: https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID002518
That U-shaped piece at the bottom of the lifter looks a part of it and that's precisely the one I'm in dire need of, it looks but it isn't!
The lifter I've got today is new and in very good order but without that piece! :headbanging
My good mechanic is rather worried now: how, where & when could he find that missing bit?
I'm gutted and the car is in pieces... :scared

HELP!
Who could send me one (or better two) U-shaped piece I even don't know the name and reference??? :S
Please!

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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#12 Post by 961tat » Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:11 pm

Got them here pm you don't panic :D

As you can see I don't throw anything away :laughing2

https://ibb.co/RTw24GB
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Also rimmers are miss selling there I would chase that up . In my world thats really poor service they should have different part number for the bracket but show item 2 as one and state its a ram assembly :slapme :cursing I feel your pain !!!

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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#13 Post by Dorchester » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:12 am

Thank you 961tat!
I'm looking forward to seeing from you
Two pieces would be fantastic with the U-shaped, small rectangular piece (with the hole, as in Rimmers' sketch) and horizontal bolt for both my lifters because even in the remaining one the bottom looks in poor condition.
Thank you sooooo much in advance!
Arnaud

EDIT: I'll write to Rimmers but it looks a waste of time because it's obvious they no longer have the missing bits.
Even the sketch is actually very misleading I haven't great hopes...
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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#14 Post by 961tat » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:12 am

Here you go another on the list for remake I would say inner hood liner bracket in stainless I would say .

You can have the as they are ( I've put on 2 new nylock nuts) or I can put in with my next batch of plating depending on you time scale plating another 2 two week .

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Re: Help! Which parts do I need to save the hydraulic jack?

#15 Post by Dorchester » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:38 am

Fantastic!
Deal done: thanks a lot you saved my day and my cab! :clapping :D
BTW I've sent a message to Rimmers asking for a commercial sign of good will...
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