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Brakes & Suspension

#1 Post by T16-Tomcat » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:50 am

Couple (or three) questions to those who know....

1 - I've fitted a full set of HEL braided lines and ZS180 brakes to my Coupe in the quest for improved brake performance. I needed to make some spacers to step the carriers out to centralise them over the disc, but when putting the stock 6 spoke 15's back on the back of the spokes foul the outside face of the caliper. I've ordered some 5mm spacers, but is this normal for those who have done it?

2 - The pedal travel has increased quite a bit due to the larger pot diameter. I'd like to upgrade to a 1" master cylinder, does anyone know what fits the stock servo/pedal arrangement?

3 - With regard to suspension, I don't really want the expense just yet for a set of coilovers. I noticed on some threads that people talk of using a ZS/ZR combination, which is lower and stiffer, but I can't find any details on what these are, does anyone know what the options are?

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#2 Post by RoverRevival » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:26 pm

1) by using the spacer you changed the offset so yes it is likely you will need to increase the gap from your Caliper.
Remember when using a spacer you may need longer hub nuts as well.

2) The land rover master is usually the upgrade of choice when going to 282 or twin pot legend like I did. Send me a message on Facebook @roverrevival and I’ll dig you a pic out.

3) if you are running kseries look for anything diesel or T-series as these are much heavier engines. That will only affect the front though.
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#3 Post by T16-Tomcat » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:05 pm

Thanks.

1 - I only spaced the caliper carrier out to align it with the differing offset of the ZS discs, but that makes sense. Even with a 5mm spacer, I get 20mm of thread engagement, which following the old engineers rule of 1.5x bolt diameter of thread engagement should be OK. If I went any thicker I would have no choice.

2 - That would be ace, but I don't use FB. Wouldn't happen to know the PN would you, or which vehicles it was fitted to?

3 - Nope, T Series, I just wondered what combo of R3/HHR suspension people were referencing when they fitted that to an R8 model, if I can't figure it out it will have to wait for funds for some coilovers!

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#4 Post by RoverRevival » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:00 pm

stock suspension and h&r springs are the choices of many on the rcoc, as for part numbers i can't help as i don't do modified if i can help it....*laughs*

Can't find any part numbers but this is what i have fitted to black

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#5 Post by T16-Tomcat » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:16 pm

Cheers!

I wasn't going to do modified either, I've just tried to go with a few minor 'period' bolt ons. I'll get some pics up when its off the stands! at 26 years young with 46k on the clock and no rust, she's not a bad example!

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#6 Post by 961tat » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:32 pm

I used killen springs from spring loaded for my cabby . Coilovers ok for track in my opinion.
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#7 Post by Cromp85 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:14 pm

You could fit ZR/25 hub knuckles, then you wont need spacers for the disks to fit the calipers.
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#8 Post by T16-Tomcat » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:32 pm

Thanks both, I will look into both. :clapping

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#9 Post by richard moss » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:26 pm

I assume that by "Landrover master cylinder" you mean Freelander 1?
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#10 Post by The Origina lNom » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:45 pm

I seem to remember from another defunct forum that it was advisable to use a m/c where the brake lines exited on the opposite side to the engine. It meant remaking brake lines but in the interests of safety it was advisable.

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#11 Post by GTiJohn » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:55 pm

The Origina lNom wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:45 pm
I seem to remember from another defunct forum that it was advisable to use a m/c where the brake lines exited on the opposite side to the engine. It meant remaking brake lines but in the interests of safety it was advisable.
They work on either side - R8s go outboard, R3s inboard. It's just a bit easier to get a m/cyl with ports on the same side as the car.
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#12 Post by 961tat » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:45 pm

Mg zr 160 and 25 gti both go outboard :D

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#13 Post by The Origina lNom » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:35 pm

I think the original lost post that I referred to may have been related to Turbos and also showed a photo of the brake pipes which faced the engine completely sheared off by engine related under bonnet movement whilst on track.

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#14 Post by JOHNDQ » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:52 pm

You need the land Rover defender TD5 non abs master cylinder.

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#15 Post by N1tr0_9 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:13 pm

What is the difference between the BRM and Freelander 1 master cylinder?

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