Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

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Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#1 Post by Smithy » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:59 pm

FOR UPDATED FIGURES SEE THE END OF THE THREAD.

Hi all,

I have been able to obtain a list of most of the vehicle registrations of the Rover 220/420 turbos alongside the information provided via the website form. The list isn't 100% definitive (e.g it won't take into account those on private plates, etc) but it is accurate and gives us a good indication of survival rates. Of all the submissions via the website there were only 2 registrations which did not match with the list for the 220 hatch turbos.

Using the online tools available to us today e.g. the vehicle licence website. I have been able to confirm the vehicles current existence. This is by no mean feat as you can imagine (it has taken me around 12 hours). So apologies to the 400 owners your statistics will follow in due course when I get time.

The figures show that currently there are (from the register list):

Rover 220 GTi Turbo

Sorn: 14
Taxed: 17

Total (taxed and sorn): 31

Rover 220 GSi Turbo

Sorn: 15
Taxed: 37

Total (taxed and sorn): 52



If you are a Rover 220 Turbo Hatch, or 420 Turbo Owner and have not yet filled in the form with your details then please could you do so. All personal information will be kept confidental.

The form can be found here:

http://www.rover200.org.uk/register.php
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#2 Post by Smithy » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:08 pm

Rover 420 Turbo Statistics

Taxed : 24
Sorn: 30

Total (taxed and sorn): 54

Not many left at all of the turbos :blink
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#3 Post by woodsy_mv6 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:02 pm

Changed details on mine recently and DVLA have cocked up :o :rolleyes


As a result, I don't think mine is included in your total there.
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#4 Post by Smithy » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:32 pm

Updated to include woodsy in the surviving and not dead part of the database.
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#5 Post by woodsy_mv6 » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:34 am

Thanks Lindsey.

I assume that 400 figure is a combination of the "GSi's" and the "GSi Sport's" to, isn't it?? :sad
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#6 Post by Smithy » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:27 pm

woodsy_mv6 wrote:Thanks Lindsey.

I assume that 400 figure is a combination of the "GSi's" and the "GSi Sport's" to, isn't it?? :sad
I believe it contains both. All the online forms filled in which said Sports turbo cross-referenced to my list but were marked as just a GSi Turbo. Which leads me to believe that all the sports were just marked as GSi Turbo on the V5. Unless someone can prove different?
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#7 Post by tali » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:55 pm

Typical Rover cocking up of range :S .Model range revision occurred in Nov 93 - i assume this would be when GSi Turbo begins.
There is a possibility of Sports Turbo on V5 .Would also be interesting to know of the last ones registered and colours
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Re: Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#8 Post by rovex32 » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:42 pm

Rover often messed up. I had a genuine 420 GSI sport turbo that was registered as a GSI only (non turbo), but some digging by a dealer confirmed it to be a real sport turbo (the engine it was sold with was a turbo lump).

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Re: Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#9 Post by Smithy » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:51 pm

rovex32 wrote:Rover often messed up. I had a genuine 420 GSI sport turbo that was registered as a GSI only (non turbo), but some digging by a dealer confirmed it to be a real sport turbo (the engine it was sold with was a turbo lump).
Interesting. I had one of these on the list of VIN/VRN I have - it maybe this one? Did you want to PM me the reg(VRN) and I will check?
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Re: Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#10 Post by matthewsemple » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:23 am

That is really interesting and reveals an extremely low survival rate for these cars - if the 1100/500/250 figures that are often quoted are to be believed.

I have always thought that the 420GSi Sport Turbo debate has been a bit strange. In Turbo form, all the 420GSi models were Sport versions so they just dropped it when the 220GSi Turbo came out and they became 420GSi Turbo. I cannot see that there is much different between the 420GSi Turbo and the 420GSi Sport Turbo apart from model year changes (like the wheels) so Rover dropped the name and the DVLA certainly wouldn't be interested in such detail.

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Re: Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#11 Post by Smithy » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:43 pm

Well I still believe in the figures, as all of the info have been submitted so far has been on that list, with the exception of those abroad or on private plates.

What is rather worrying is that no-one yet seems to appreciate their rarity.
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Re: Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#12 Post by matthewsemple » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:09 am

It is just the 1100/500/250 figures that I have doubted. I think that they are just someone's guess at some stage that has turned into a 'fact' over time. I am sure the figures you have are most accurate.

When you have a minute can you, as discussed yesterday, produce some high-level stats based on the VIN numbers of the totals for each model that were UK registered?

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Re: Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#13 Post by Clawjaw » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:28 am

i think the survival rate of any mk2 200 and mk1 400 rover is pretty bad

i mean the 3drs looked hmmm still look very sporty so did most ppl write em off?

is there a way for dvla to tell us the ammount of all mk2 200 and mk1 400 still on record either on or off (sorn) road :S

what im saying is is that you hardly hear of the 220GTi anymore but instead get most ppl owning the 220GSi

i cant remember the last time i saw a rover with the same lil plastic front on as mine and lindzs but instead they all have that horrible crome/silver colored thing like what the GSis have :unsure

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Re: Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#14 Post by Dave 220 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:02 am

So how many 220T's do you have so far?

Seems a shame so few are left.
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Re: Rover 220 Hatch & 420 Saloon Turbo Register Statistics

#15 Post by Smithy » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:33 pm

Dave 220 wrote:So how many 220T's do you have so far?

Seems a shame so few are left.
Not sure what you are asking sorry? The numbers quoted above from last year, was a fairly definitive list.
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