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220 GTi rear spoiler

#1 Post by Pencil Tip » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:15 pm

Is the standard rear spoiler on a 220 GTi bolted or bonded to the bootlid?

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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#2 Post by Cromp85 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:36 am

It should be bolted from underneath. 2 bolts at each end and 4 locating pegs in the middle i think.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#3 Post by 1234dist » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:17 am

As above, some people bonded as well just for added security.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#4 Post by Johnny 216GSi » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:19 am

There are also some very thin rubber padding strips on the bottom, around the edge. I should imagine these potentially stick to the paintwork on the hatch over time, given the weight of the spoiler and the tightness of the bolts. It might give the impression the spoiler is sealed to the hatch as I expect the strips tear when you remove the spoiler, leaving some black residue on the car and the spoiler, but it isn't.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#5 Post by Cromp85 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:18 pm

Johnny 216GSi wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:19 am
There are also some very thin rubber padding strips on the bottom, around the edge. I should imagine these potentially stick to the paintwork on the hatch over time, given the weight of the spoiler and the tightness of the bolts. It might give the impression the spoiler is sealed to the hatch as I expect the strips tear when you remove the spoiler, leaving some black residue on the car and the spoiler, but it isn't.
The foam rubber acts as a gasket to stop water ingress around the fixing holes. It is EDPM foam ruber and is the same thing the light cluster seals are made from. You can buy sheets of it if you shop about.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#6 Post by Pencil Tip » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:05 pm

Thanks for the replies. The reason I ask is because I have a leak in the boot. After a bit of investigating, I think it is coming from the side of the bumper. How do I remove the rear bumper? I have Tomcat bumpers.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#7 Post by 961tat » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:13 pm

Back lights are good at leaking too

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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#8 Post by Johnny 216GSi » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:04 pm

Pencil Tip wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:05 pm
Thanks for the replies. The reason I ask is because I have a leak in the boot. After a bit of investigating, I think it is coming from the side of the bumper. How do I remove the rear bumper? I have Tomcat bumpers.
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I can only tell you about bumper removal on the standard car...

1. Remove the rear mud-flaps if you have them fitted.
2. Take the lower securing bolt off - look underneath the bumper directly in the middle for the tab that holds the bumper to the car with a bolt and washer.
3. There are two square slider bolts each side of the car that are bolted through the rear of each wheel arch - on the flat portion just behind the wheel arch lip. I take these off as my bumper won't slide off these but I expect it's supposed to. They are held on with combi-nuts (integral spinning washer type) and they're nice and rusty. Problem I had was that I could turn the nuts but the bolts on the other side were just spinning and there's no way of holding them as they're behind the bumper. I managed to free the bumper just by pulling at it whilst turning the bolts via the nuts - then once off I could hold the slider bolts and free off the nuts. They've since been de-rusted and greased, so I don't have the same problem now...
4. Then on the hatchback, there are two huge rubber grommets in the boot, below the "boot wrap" that surrounds the boot striker plate and forms the back of the boot liner. They're about 2 to 2.5 feet apart... Remove these grommets and inside there are the long studs that come from the bumper. You need to use a nut spinner to take each nut off, as they are well inside the cavities exposed by taking those grommets off. They're mate nuts. If you can - fish out the two washers on each stud - a large one (huge), then there should be a neoprene rubber sealing washer, then a smaller washer on top. If you don't fish them out, when you pull the rear bumper off, they'll either fall into the wheel well so you'll end up having to take the spare wheel out to get at them, or they'll roll along the boot edge behind the side trim (that carries the boot light on one side) and you'll have to take the side trim out to get at them. All very annoying.
5. Bumper should then pull off the car.

As Vinny said, the rear light clusters are a source of water leaks - if the gaskets aren't sealing properly either because the gaskets are very old and have lost their form, or they've been fitted incorrectly (often "folded over" somewhere). Other than that, the side air vents under the bumpers may also leak. Then there's potential rusting through around the rear wheel arch through into the boot if the 2-3 body panels that come together roughly where those slider bolts go through aren't sealed together properly. You'll probably see a rust hole on the outside of the car when the bumper is off.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#9 Post by 1234dist » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:01 pm

Remove both rub strips
2 bolts per side
Middle of the bumper where the towing eye is there is another bolt connecting it to the body.
Slide towards you with force.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#10 Post by Pencil Tip » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:11 pm

Thanks guys, sounds easier than I thought. Am I right in thinking that there are draught flaps on each side of the car that can be the culprit for leaks? It certainly looks like this is the area on the offside.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#11 Post by 1234dist » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:11 pm

yes very common leak spot
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#12 Post by Pencil Tip » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 pm

I suppose a few drops of silicone will be the solution, once the bumper us off.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#13 Post by 1234dist » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:37 pm

Not quite.

remove bumper, drill out the rivets that hold the vent in. Cut up an old innertube make a new gasket and the refit with a nut and bolt but loose.
Squirt an amount of sealant onto the gasket and the vent then tighten together and use the overspray to seal the rest of vent.

If you want to do it right obviously.

Bit of sealant may last you a year or two.
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Re: 220 GTi rear spoiler

#14 Post by Pencil Tip » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:10 am

Cheers Craig. A job to do when we have a dry day. :D
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